Posted by: Editor | December 21, 2007

Cold War: Hazaragi Academy and Azargi Academy

Hazaragi Academy is a literary organization working for the development of Hazaragi literature in Quetta. It is affiliated with Tanzeem Nasle Nau Hazara Mughul. The organization publishes four monthly magazines, including Paygham-e-Tanzeem (Urdu), Deedgah-e-Nasle Nau (Dari), Saybith (Hazaragi) and Chilldukhtaran (Urdu, Dari). A number of books have also been published by Hazaragi Academy. The books include Hazara Tribe in Balochistan, Hazaraha Wa Kan Kola Pakistan, Bahar-i-Anis, Tarikh-e-Mille Hazara Mughul, Raqs-e-Mahtab, Hasrat-e-Deed, Parghuna hayeath Zulmath and Mazameen-e-Chilldukhtaran.

Aazragi Academy is another literary organization working for the development of Hazaragi language and literature in Quetta. It is unofficially affiliated with Hazara Democratic Party. Manji is the Quarterly Magazine published by Aazragi Academy.

Both academies have deep ideological disputes on the Hazaragi language. Hazaragi Academy emphasizes more on the Dari roots of Hazaragi, while Aazragi Academy stresses more on the Hazaragi script as it is spoken currently among the Hazaras.

Last month District Govenment Quetta had a budget meeting, presided by Quetta City Nazim, Mir Maqbool Ahmed Lehri, during which the City Government released special funds for Balochi Academy, Pashto Academy and Brahui Academy. These academies receive special annual funds and a government-sponsored building for use as office space. During the City Council meeting, Syed Talib Agha, a Nazim of Union Council 15 Mehrabad, took a stand and questioned the council to release special funds for Hazaragi Academy as well.

Later on, a delegation of Hazaragi Academy led by Syed Talib Agha and Master Ahmed Reza (Nazim Unoin Council 14) called a meeting with City Nazim and reported the progress of Hazaragi Academy. Resultantly, the City Nazim released 2 lakh rupees special funds for the said academy.

Aazragi Academy, by support of Ahmad Ali Kohzad, Nazim Union Council 60 Hazara Town, issued statements that the funds be released for Aazragi Academy. Disputes got hotter and the release of funds got more controversial. The City Government reserved the release of funds as a result.

Later on, both academies had a separate meeting–with Hussain Ali Yousafi as middleman–to resolve the issue. But no success was made.

The former Provincial Government of Balochistan, after efforts of Hazara Member of Provincial Assembly (MPA) and Minister for Sports and Forestry, Colonel Younas Changaze, had announced special funds to construct a building for a new Hazaragi Academy (not the one affiliated with Tanzeem) and a library.

The administration of the new academy, as well as the location of its central office, are still controversial.

NOTE: HNP hereby apologize for the mistake quoting 5m (50 lakh) issuance of funds for Hazaragi Academy. The actual amount is 2 lakh.


Responses

  1. Салам алейкум the SHAMAN!

    To you Ulzutuj (a nationality the Buryat-Mongol, I live in a city of Ulan-Ude, Republic Buryatiya, Russia, about lake Baikal) addresses.
    Whether you can inform me on that:
    Whether the Mongolian language has remained;
    The Mongolian language has how much changed;
    Whether can write to us in the Mongolian language;
    In what scientific institutions you have data about languages and stories of Hazarejtse.

    Yours faithfully, Ulzutuj

  2. Dear Bamyan

    Nawroz is a historic and cultural event. It is more about the nature rather than religioun. Nowroz existed before Islam,Chrischnity,Bodhysm and those religioun. Nowroz even celebrating in many other countries in diffrent form even Japan in eastern countries. It does not have anylinks to any sort of religion. However the religiouse linked Nawroz to Imam Ali.
    Nawroz is not celebrating in Subcontinent and it had influnce to reduce the celebration amongst our own Hazara and Afghan Refugees in Pakistan.

    thanks for your question and consern.

    Ahmad Australia

  3. My dear freind
    Let start like this. What is formal language and what is informal? What is spoken language and what is reading and writing language? What is the alphabet of Hazaragi and is coming from Dari,Farsi or Urdu? How many words we borrowed from Arabic,Turkic and Mongolian and cetral asian? What is the meaning of Urdu and comes from what language and made by who and when? Urdu mean in Turkish mixed mongolian Arm<Sepah wa Lashkar. Even now in Afghanistan and Hazaristan we use Urduy Milliاردوی ملی یا فوای مسلح به زبان عربی But the old Dari and Persian version is Urdu the language of Army or Fawj which. Fawj means in Arabic Army. Urdu is the old Dari Hazaragi….

    Don’t worry how you pronouce.It is important what is the source and the main language it took from. Unfortunatly because of illitracy,second language and neglect everything changed the way it is now. Nemkela Dari Fari like worse Gulabi Urdu which you never heard. Dari and Farsi mix with Turkic , Mongolian and Arabic is the real and common language that we can call Hazaragi dialect but not the completly independent language or mostly independent. We we should exxlude our generation Hazaras from Dari,Farsi along their beatiful and historic Hazaragi Dialect. Beacuse in modern word Dari and Persian has the highest volue for many civilasation and Urdu comes from Dari,Farsi and Sansecret.
    Speaking,Reading and Writting is important not the minor dialect diffrences.Every languge has less or more few diffrences includingEnglish,German and Dutch,Frenchs are not all speaking same dialect nor do the Persian and Dari. Even English has many dialect and way of pronounciation and dialects like Walesh,Scotland,Irish,Canadian US…. and so on.
    And we are not special to be perfect in that linguestic regards and differences. Even Farsi Dari has many diffrent dialects in Iran,Afghanistan,Tajekestan and Pakistan.Even the time of Afghani Mogols and Turks who were more related to Hazaras and other minorities ruled the Sub_ Continant India had many famouse poet and scholars including Merza Abdul Qadir Bedel Dehlavi.Nasir Khesraw who spent time there and the most important the recent great poeter and philosopher Alama Iqbal Lahori and other great kings and Queens,Scholars and poet and singers. Lets look to the issue in a broad,historic,linguestic and academic manner rather than bassless bias and self created imaginations. Thanks for reading my comments.

    Khodawand Jahan pusht wa panah tan wa donya wa iqbal boland hamrahtan bashad

  4. My dear freind
    Let start like this. What is formal language and what is informal? What is spoken language and what is reading and writing language? What is the alphabet of Hazaragi and is coming from Dari,Farsi or Urdu? How many words we borrowed from Arabic,Turkic and Mongolian and cetral asian? What is the meaning of Urdu and comes from what language and made by who and when? Urdu mean in Turkish mixed mongolian Arm<Sepah wa Lashkar. Even now in Afghanistan and Hazaristan we use Urduy Milliاردوی ملی یا فوای مسلح به زبان عربی But the old Dari and Persian version is Urdu the language of Army or Fawj which. Fawj means in Arabic Army. Urdu is the old Dari Hazaragi….

    Don’t worry how you pronouce.It is important what is the source and the main language it took from. Unfortunatly because of illitracy,second language and neglect everything changed the way it is now. Nemkela Dari Fari like worse Gulabi Urdu which you never heard. Dari and Farsi mix with Turkic , Mongolian and Arabic is the real and common language that we can call Hazaragi dialect but not the completly independent language or mostly independent. We we should exxlude our generation Hazaras from Dari,Farsi along their beatiful and historic Hazaragi Dialect. Beacuse in modern word Dari and Persian has the highest volue for many civilasation and Urdu comes from Dari,Farsi and Sansecret.
    Speaking,Reading and Writting is important not the minor dialect diffrences.Every languge has less or more few diffrences includingEnglish,German and Dutch,Frenchs are not all speaking same dialect nor do the Persian and Dari. Even English has many dialect and way of pronounciation and dialects like Walesh,Scotland,Irish,Canadian US…. and so on.
    And we are not special to be perfect in that linguestic regards and differences. Even Farsi Dari has many diffrent dialects in Iran,Afghanistan,Tajekestan and Pakistan.Even the time of Afghani Mogols and Turks who were more related to Hazaras and other minorities ruled the Sub_ Continant India had many famouse poet and scholars including Merza Abdul Qadir Bedel Dehlavi.Nasir Khesraw who spent time there and the most important the recent great poeter and philosopher Alama Iqbal Lahori and other great kings and Queens,Scholars and poet and singers. Lets look to the issue in a broad,historic,linguestic and academic manner rather than bassless bias and self created imaginations. Thanks for reading my comments.

    Khodawand Jahan pusht wa panah tan wa donya wa iqbal boland hamrahtan bashad

  5. Hi Dear again
    According to the World Religions by Sean McLoughlin Shamanism is recognised as the world’s oldest religion tradition,evolving before the Neolithic period( c.8000-3000) and the Bronz Age (2000-500bc) . It was originally practised among hunting and gathering societies of Siberia and Central Asia. The saman is derived from the Tungus. Some historian believe Changis Khan also following this religion and the his decendents converted to Islam Shia,Sunni,Ismaeli…….. I think it is not the subject who can protect us.It is about history,culture,ancestary and our glouriouse background why we should be asham of our forthfathers? Good luck to all of you just read,research and find a solution for Hazara nation a way to survive and knowing our history.

    best of luck for all of you

    Ahmad

  6. Gee!!! another drauma….now we are in protection of Tanri…..Hazaras don’t worry….you are in protection of so many forces……
    guys stop this drauma….

  7. When we die, our parts become parts of world soil. We become part of this world. There are many trees in this world EARTH. Many plants. But not all of them live together. They can not. Some plants are parasite. Same is here for humans. I respect the views of our HAZARA (Turkish-Mogols). I am so happy that our Hazara nation has reached the point to think of so high. We Hazaras are infact the remainings of Mongolians. Who are part of the mighty Turko Mongol origin. The wise Mongols say: All of us originated from Mongolia but our enemies gave us different names like, Turks, Mogols and Tatars, Ozbeks, Turkomans. But if we see, we all come from the same land Mongolia. In past we did our conquests. We shooked the entire world. But today, our Nation know the value of PEACE. But rest of the world has gone crazy! Today, Hazaras are targeted for beeing SHIAS. When we look at the sittuation, we can see every human or lets say all living things die. This is the fact which give us the great satisfaction. If only our enemies had the power to hold control of our souls then i was a matter of great concern. But the fact is our enemies are mortal as well. Living with fear has no value for Hazaras. If it were any other nation things were all different then. I am proud to be part of such thoughtful nation. A nation which trying hard to survive but maintaining peace around the globe. Like the Turks say, Shia and Sunny differences is Arab crap. Don’t get envolve in such confusions. Mongols had long before found the Tangri in the blue skies while Arabs had many allahs in the shape of statues in Kaaba.
    Failure of security is a failure. No matter which community suffer. It is called failure. Responsible are the heads of the security departments. If THOUSANDS must seek justice they MUST know the HEADS. The politician weaknesses are well known. They are political bosses. To govern they must put different communities in confilicts. So be careful all of us. Never be easy targets for the corrupt bosses.
    At the End, after a very long period of time, we can see how Hazaras are forwarding towards their origins. It is of course satisfactory. The Turkic world also has come to know us today. Our blood won’t spilt in vain. One day we will mark a powerful nation ourselves. All we need is to be patient and practice PEACE. Even our enemies would acknowledge our peace lovinhg nature one day. Best regards to all Humanity. Tagnri (TANRI) may protect all of Hazaras and other innocent human beings. Tomrrow has no charm while we have seconds in front of us to live in. Regards.
    Powerful Shaman.

  8. Salam Qawmay Aziz & and whoever has roots and relation with great nation Hazara. On your first comment are we Azra or Hazra? My dears just be academic and well aware of your history and background. We say Aaw, Shaw,Khaw, gaw,Qawma…. all of them are local pronounciations. But how we write and more important what was the source or Maekhaz ماخذKelema? It is ،آزره یا هزاره ،آب ،شب،خواب،گاو،قومها…. Hazara is a word comes from Persian,Dari language and Azara Azra are local pronounce not more than that. This is just a name for our nation. Second question. Ok Hazara is a name to call or became known by that.what is our race,history,relatated ethnic and tribes,backgroound,our historic figures regardless of their religion,langauage,location,country or giving nationality.For example Hazaras are every where in the world and have different nationalities. What do you call them Eropean,Australian,German,America Hazaras or what? Offcourse we are living in defferent countries but we are proud Hazara. We should not be like Yateem and stolen generation for dump our history,background,ancestary and relations because of the giving nationality or being far from the main land of Hazrajat(Hazarestan).
    The languge we speak,read and writeFarsi,Dari with Hazaragi accent and Turk -Mongolian words. all of forthfathers Ghorids,Koshanis,Ghaznaivds,Baburis,all Turk Mongolian kings scholars and poets adopted and developed Dari Farsi like Sultan Mahmoud Ghaznavi who ordered and encourged Ferdowsi to write the Shahnama but sultan Mahmoud was a Turk speaking Dari,Farsi. Mawlana Jaladin Balkhi Rumi,Babur the founder of Moghol Dynesty and founder of Kabul ran all his affair in Farsi Dari but at the sametime wrote his Baburnama in his native languge Mongolian Turkish. We I brought them as an example? Because Hazara is the name of tribe and ethnic but in here I am talking more diverse about race and history(نژادو تاریخ) regardless of if they were Sunnis,Shia,Ismaeli,Budhist,Shamims like Changis Khan himself as historian say the his sons converted to Islam. Why our thoughts are so narrow and limited? Why Tajiks,Pashtons,Baloch,Uzbeks,Turkmen and in India and Pakistan all of them are proud of Ghaznavid,Ghorids,Buburi,Changezi and others. They are making massaels puting their names. But unfortunatly most our Hazara shia religion to some extend disassociated themself completly from their race,blood and history.As some mullahs and uneduacated people about our history try to make us Arabs,Aryans… Why should not search the history to find our roots and race. This is not the sin if it was the Allah would created us as many Qabayel and race. The Allah confirm and adore all of his creatures. Why being Hazara,Changizi, Turk Mongolian are crime. What Mazari said?
    1. “Our only wish for our people is that being Hazara should no longer be a crime.”
    تنها خواست مابرای مردم ما اینست که دیگر هزاره بودن جرم نباشد.

    When we started to learn Urdu,English and other languges not more than 100 year ago.Even now we are speaking Hazaragi in Dari,Farsi Chawkat grammer and rules. What was the languge of leaders from the begining till now Mazari,Keshtamand,General Mousa…..? Can you tell me from one to the the trillion one single number in Hazaragi in maths? What about the scientific and technical languge like medeciene,geography,litrature,astrology…… Yes my dear freind I know the Farsi Dari is not my native language nor the Urdu and English. What is the meaning of Urdu? Urdu means in turkish Fawj,Qoway Moslah,Army, Zaban Sepahyan Turk Mongolian who rulled the subcountenant like Mogol kings. Aaqa,Beg begum Khanum,Atta ya Aatay…Aapa Baji all of them are Turkish Mongolian words we survived some of them. Then what is the benefit if we pronouce and write the word Shaw,khaw,Azara ya Azra? What did you eat Gandum,Nan,Aab,Sher Mother… They are the basic words. We love to learn our Hazaragi language but I think it is too late and devide our nation to the extent when we have problem to communicate and understanding each others words! Hazara Unity and solidarity requires one single speaking,reading,writing even to bring more similarity accent is nessary.Learn from the English speakers.They live in defferent contenants but they survived their language,history,costoms and at the same time they broght changes and development not only to their societies even to the world. Not only to survive their language even encouraged and imposed upon other nations. I am one of them! Australia is far from England,US,Canada,South Africa New Zealand…. but what is the defference about their languages? Not much other than accents. How many years they are away from each other? How many years we have away from our main land Hazarestan? Unfortuantly now have alook to the defferences and feeling. It is a neglect our Hazaras are not able to read and write their native or and centuries adopted Dari,Farsi language! It is a big sham to me personally. How can we keep our nation Hazara united,nationally,linguastic,culturally… We need to think Pokhta. We can not make our history,language,unity,bringing social changes and justice by toop toop wa Khak bazi. It is not wise and healthy to stop them learning Dari,Farsi which is the main language of Afghanistan and Hazara people and teach them few local words. If you follow the Hazaragi language academiclly and historically then you have to chose Turkish,Mongolian or Central Asian languges because they are more pure and suitable rather then nemkela Urdu,Hindi farsi Hazaragi ! Therfore I am very respectfull to your feeling about your conserns about Hazaragi Academy.I appreciate and I am humble from Allah and my beloved nation Hazara.But it the same time I am not in favour Goly Mosaken Dadan! I rather chose to treat the disease and problem. We need to think vital and critical not emotional and temperary solutions.To we must discover our history,break the barrier of religion and limits as the made for us. Find out about our race,history,background,language and litratures. About the black and white histroy of Hazara as a race not only tribe and name. Why once we were majority then Abdul Rahaman along his collaborators killed our %62 of our Hazara nation in order to bring population ballace in favour of Pashtons! in cordination with British Indian Government.Why they massacared the Moghol Kings in India? Are we related to them or the related to us? Why it happense in very close time my dear Hazaras. Dari Farsi language was the official language of sub continant including Pak,Indai,Bangladish then why replaced with English? When Pashto was introduce in Afghanistan during Zahir Shah. Why Ahmad Shah Abdali,Abdul Rahman Ndir Ghadar who was killed by brave son of Faryad Hazara ran all their affairs in Dari Farsi? Why Baby Kal Mellat Zahir Shah was not able to fully speak in Pashto? Everybody had threw their arrows towards our Dari,Farsi wiht its beatiful Hazaragi accent that we love and adore. Now knowingly or unknowingly we should target ourselves interest in order to make enemies happy.Please never foget think deep,academic and historic. Our nation had enough Zulm wa setam in every aspects of their live. Allah bless all of you Zenda wa sarbeland bad moram Hazara wa neshan Hazara ha dar sarasar Aalam hemrahi baqi aqwam sharik.
    best wishes and great respect to all of you

  9. I want to say to all my Quma that we are Hazaras not azra > ( look one thing is ) When we are talking we are saying ( azra) but the written word is Hazara. thanks

  10. salam
    shabash roshan khayala wa khaninda i qaum ra…….
    fundi city govt wa provincial govt ra ham girifta namaitanin.
    tamam QAUM hairan asta ki mo AZRA astay ya HAZARA astay..
    Da khayali azma awal ami ra faisila kanin wa baz acadmies jor kanin..
    yak shi chandi mahnama wa kitaba chap kada wa digay shi qaum ra manji na?
    wa roi baroi diga mardom kodam roi mo ra nishan mida?
    ki mo tabali faisila na tanistay ki mo AZRA astay ya HAZARA..
    az bri KHUDA bale azi QAUMI mazloom RAHAM kanin…
    TASHAKUR

  11. salam
    shabash roshan khayala wa khaninda i qaum ra…….
    fundi city govt wa provincial govt ra ham girifta namaitanin.
    tamam QAUM hairan asta ki mo AZRA astay ya HAZARA astay..
    Da khayali azma awal ami ra faisila kanin wa baz acadmies jor kanin..
    yak shi chandi mahnama wa kitaba chap kada wa digay shi qaum ra manji na?
    wa roi baroi diga mo ra chi ra kodam roi mo ra nishan mida?
    ki mo tabali faisila na tanistay ki mo AZRA astay ya HAZARA..
    az bri KHUDA bale azi QAUMI mazloom RAHAM kanin…
    TASHAKUR


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